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Wet_Boots

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Wednesday, September 19th 2007, 1:08am

http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/Irritrol-1-inch-Anti-Siphon-Control-Valve-p/2713apr.htm

Current-day version of the older Richdel valve (same dimensions, different internal parts)

faithfulfrank

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Location: USA

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Sunday, November 4th 2007, 9:56am

Hi guys,
I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I have just a few more questions.

1) I read some reviews online...(Jess Strykers), and it seems he prefers the hunter brand over the Irritrol brand. If I replace one or all of them, should I switch to the hunter brand? They are the same price.

2) I'm thinking I will first take a better look at what I have down there, then order. I'll be down there for 3 weeks. If I place an order from Sprinklerwherehouse right after I get down there, will I get it in time to do the job?

Thanks, Frank D.
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"

Wet_Boots

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Sunday, November 4th 2007, 10:49am

Irritrol = decades of successful performance

Hunter = more recent item, and different dimensions, most likely

mrfixit

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Sunday, November 4th 2007, 11:12am

Opinions vary. That particular Hunter valve has had some problems with cracking over the years. The bonnet was re-designed due to cracking a while back. Then they had problems with it cracking on the bottom of the valve under the bonnet. I believe the latest design came out around Jan 2007. It might be a good valve now. Time will tell.

The only 2713 valves I've seen crack open were due to water hammer. Let me just say water hammer could break any plastic valve.

As far as installation goes, the 2713's will make your life easier.
The existing pipes will line up perfectly.

I think you should buy the valves in advance. I've had two items lost in the mail recently. One via UPS and one via USPS. Let me add that the mailings had nothing to do with Sprinkler Warehouse.

Good luck!


If I can't fix it, it's broken!

faithfulfrank

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Location: USA

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Sunday, November 4th 2007, 5:57pm

Thank you Mr. Fixit!
I look forward to learning much more about my system.....and I'll follow your advice and stick with what I have. I guess I thought they were interchangeable.
The Hunter website made it sound that they were the best.
Like my wife says, "You're over-researching stuff again!"[:I]

I may wait until I get there, just to check things out better. If I just order the four valves I'm still just shy of the free shipping. I may also order the weatherproof connections, because I see that what I have now is just loosely taped. I'll check all my sprinkler heads...I know that there are one or two that are missing the very top caps.

I may just fix the leak for now, then get a complete order together.

This forum is great. Thank you for all the kind help.

Frank D.
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"

faithfulfrank

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Location: USA

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Friday, December 7th 2007, 12:06pm

Hi again.
I'm now down here at the Florida house, and that one bad valve is really dripping bad. I want to place an order. I've called customer service a couple of times, but have only gotten a voice mail. No problem, but I need a couple of questions answered before I place the order, and because of the dripping and the fact that i'm only down here for a couple of weeks, I really need to get this done.

1) I'm a bit confused......the 4 valves are all 1" valves, but the pipes going up to the valves are only 1" OUTSIDE diameter....the 1" PVC pipes at the big box store must be 1" ID, because the OD for 1" PVC pipe is like 1 5/16". So my question is.....is the pipe coming up from the ground 3/4" pipe, and if so, what size valves do I buy....1" or 3/4" ??

2) I also have a shipping question. I see that you ship using UPS. That's good, because UPS will deliver to me......BUT, sometimes UPS has USPS deliver to them. If they do that, I have a problem. All my USPS mail sent to Florida gets forwarded to my NY house. That would be very bad.......I need these valves here, not in NY, so I must make sure that UPS will deliver them, not the post office.

I look forward to your help so I can place this order. thanks!

Frank D.
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"

faithfulfrank

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Friday, December 7th 2007, 1:57pm

Sorry....I did not realize you were closed Fridays......
I'll try to get the order placed Monday AM.

Thanks, Frank D.
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"

Admin

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Sunday, December 9th 2007, 9:01am

Frank,

We appreciate your support and look forward to you purchasing your parts at www.SprinklerWarehouse.com

We are at the 28th Annual International Irrigation Show in San Diego.
You can place your order online at www.SprinklerWarehouse.com and it will ship Wednesday morning.
If you would like to speak with us before placing your order, please call Wednesday morning and we will be available to assist you.

Thank you for the opportunity to assist in your sprinkler needs!

Steve Okelberry
President
Sprinkler Warehouse

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mrfixit

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Sunday, December 9th 2007, 3:15pm

Hi Frank. Here's what you need. Four 1" 2711APR valves. That way you don't have to move the pipes over for the 3/4" valves to fit. Eight 1"x3/4" male adapters. Eight 3/4" couplings. 3/4" teflon tape. I use 6 wraps of tape on the male adapters on that particular valve. Three would be enough though. Tighten with a wrench til snug. Some 3/4" pvc pipe. A 10 foot section should do it. I use silicone filled wire nuts. Dryconn brand mostly. You'll need 6 small ones. You'll need primer and glue. Possibly a piece of sandpaper for those moldy pipes. You could dig down a bit and get cleaner pipe. Maybe a piece or two of wire which you can cut off the old solenoids if you wish. Write down the colors of the wires and where they go before removal. You'll need a pvc pipe cutter. If you use a hacksaw make sure ALL of the sawdust is removed. I highly recommend using the cutters. Once you have the water turned back on bleed the valves with the bleeder screw and adjust the flow control. Meaning turn the flow control clockwise a bit without obstructing the flow of water. You don't want those open all the way. That should do it. Good luck!
If I can't fix it, it's broken!

faithfulfrank

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Monday, December 10th 2007, 4:43am

Dear Mr. Fix-it and Admin,
Thank you!
I appreciate the help, and do not mean to be a pain. I plumbed my whole house up north, but am new to these sprinkler systems. I'm glad I got down here...that one valve is dripping about one drip per second now.

Anyway, I bought all of the pipe and fittings I need for the job, but I still have just one question....The pipe coming up is 3/4.......they are currently using a 3/4 weld to 1" thread male adapter to go into the 1" valves. Do I really need the 1" valves?

The only reason I ask, (and I'm not really trying to be a cheapo) , is that those male adapters cost like $1.40 each here, while the regular 3/4 male adapters cost about 33 cents each. There is no water restriction through the 3/4 male adapters.....so would the 3/4 inch valves be a better choice, seeing that they are a bit less expensive, and the adapters are much less expensive?

I want to do it right, and will stick with the one inch valves and male adapters if there is a good reason.......I have carefully dug out the ground around the valve pipes, and there is enough movement, (I think) to do it either way.....are the 3/4 inch valves that much different in the space between the pipes, as to make sticking with the 1" the wiser choice?

I will stick with the 1", no problem if that is the better choice....I just do not know why they used 1" valves with a 3/4 inch pipe system.

Also, I will buy a pipe cutter to cut these schedule 40 3/4 inch pvc pipes.....is there a preference between the RC1000, or the SB3300 ? My tentitive order is just under the free shipping price, so I do not mind spending more to save on the shipping.

Lastly, (to Steve), can I assume that my order will come UPS, and not USPS ? Sometimes UPS contracts with USPS, and if it did, they would automatically forward the order to my NY house...not a good thing.

Thank you all again for your kind help.....I will place the order asap as soon as I know for sure what to get...(probably exactly what Mr fixit told me to do....[:o)] )

Thanks! Frank D.
"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"

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