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Gunther

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Sunday, February 18th 2018, 2:58pm

Low pressure on 1 zone

I have seen a large amount written on this subject, but I cannot find one that fits my situation. I have a 9 zone system with Hunter PGV-ASV valves. I installed all 9 valves new on my system since a few of the old valves had issues. My zone 5 never really acted right even after changing the valve. I ended up installing all new PVC to the sprinkler heads hoping this would fix the low pressure problem. It basically had no pressure before I re-plumbed due to some leaks in the pipes. I am getting more pressure now, but not the correct amount.

I have already changed the valve out for a completely new valve. I have switched the top end from one of the working valves to the one that gives the low pressure. I have also tried solenoids from the other zones. If i just turn on zone 5 (low pressure zone) either manually or electrically it gives what I would consider to be about 60% pressure. After banging my head against the wall literally and figuratively I just started doing random things. The thing that has made zone 5 go to 100% is really weird. I turn on zone 5 and it give the standards 60% pressure. I open another zones bleed valve or main valve for a split second and then close it and then voila 100% pressure on zone 5.

This is obviously not a practical way for me to get the zone to water my newly placed sod consistently. Any help is appreciated...this is driving me insane. Thank you.

mrfixit

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Location: USA

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Sunday, February 18th 2018, 5:41pm

Are the seals on the sprinkler heads leaking keeping the heads from popping up all the way? What kind of sprinklers are they? Maybe downsize the nozzles.

Gunther

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Sunday, February 18th 2018, 10:05pm

Just 3 rainbird sprinklers on the zone. I have other zones that have 3 and work fine with no "workaround". Like I said, it is really weird, they do get full pressure but only after popping another zone's valve or bleed open for about 1 second and then close it. Immediately after doing that the pressure on the low pressure zone increases to where it should be. No leaking from the sprinkler heads.

I don't think it is a nozzle problem since I am able to get full pressure with the workaround.

Gunther

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Monday, February 19th 2018, 7:44pm

Anyone else have some kind of idea? I am thinking about replacing the valve yet again. Maybe I have installed 2 bad valves...I don't know at this point. It is driving me a little insane.

Wet_Boots

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Location: Metro NYC

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Wednesday, February 21st 2018, 12:26pm

Try using an Irritrol 2713APR antisyphon valve, if you want a "do this and job done" solution, sight unseen.

But first, try some advanced diagnostics. You need a pressure gauge connected somewhere upstream of your zone valves. Open a zone you know works properly. You can do this for all the zones, and log the pressure measurements.

When you get to a zone where the heads aren't popping up, the pressure gauge reading will help you know if the zone valve is the problem. Broken pipe(s) will result in a low pressure reading. A faulty valve not opening fully will result in a reading that is higher than expected.

Gunther

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Saturday, February 24th 2018, 7:30pm

So you are saying that the valve you listed is just a superior valve? I would be willing to pay $100 for a guaranteed no headache fix. I will try the pressure test with a gauge I guess. It is just a really weird problem. I do get full pressure on the zone, but only after opening the normal valve or bleed valve of another zone for a second and closing it. I know I have said this already, but the zone is capable of getting full pressure this way.

Wet_Boots

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Location: Metro NYC

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Sunday, February 25th 2018, 1:52pm

the Irritrol valve is descended from a company named Richdel that was a pioneer in plastic valves, that was an acquisition of a company later bougt by Toro - Richdel valves rarely if ever gave trouble right out of the box, which is a track record other leading brands do not enjoy - if you don't have the gauge for testing the system, your money might as well go to the Irritrol valve

Gunther

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Sunday, February 25th 2018, 4:03pm

Well, I replaced the valve. Same result. I have to pop a valve or bleed valve on another zone for a second and close it while the low pressure zone is on. This is the only thing that makes the low pressure zone have full pressure.

In my mind, I have no other options. I re-plumbed the entire zone and have tried 3 different valves. This is just crazy to me.

I guess I will just go insane and the grass will not get watered unless I do the workaround whenever I want to water. X(

Lars

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Location: Midland,Texas

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Wednesday, February 28th 2018, 9:38pm

I'm going to throw this out there,,, is it possible the problem is between your water supply, and your zone valve?

mrfixit

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Location: USA

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Thursday, March 1st 2018, 4:45am

When you have low pressure can you go out to the heads and pull them up to seal the heads giving them full pressure?
Also, "RainBird" is a brand, not a type of sprinkler head.
I still think the heads might be the problem. They aren't sealing so they can't pop up, then when the second zone shuts off it sends a little water hammer down the line popping them up the rest of the way and they seal.
You have a brand new valve, the problem must be down the line somewhere.

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