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Friday, March 30th 2018, 8:37am

by canuck travellers

Thanks, I also still have the old 24 Volt transformer from the TORO and with a small modification of the leads could use that, the only negative in that in that is if the controller can stand that, I have tried it temporarily touching the leads to the terminals and the pump relay works.
Worse comes to worse replace the Rainbird unit with the original TORO and have a lad here in the park that does these things do it if it goes south while I am gone..
So going forward I am trying the Rainbird unit again, maybe it was only a faulty transformer, hopefully that is it if not try the Toro Transformer or go back to original TORO unit.

Thanks for your speedy reply, appreciate that!.

Oh on edit...
Just a last question;

The older TORO Transformer worked great with the Pump Relay
It has the following on its transformer: 750mA/26W/24VAC

The New Rainbird has the following on its transformer:
650mA/25.5VAC

I wonder if this slightly less capacity transformer defaulted
because of the 100mA less capacity?

And if I used the old 750 TORO transformer instead with the
new Rainbird if that might be a better fit? Since the Pump Relay and the old
TORO worked with that 750 mA transformer ok.

Of course maybe the Rainbird unit might not like the
additional Amperage but does it really use it?

Anyway just thinking on trying to solve this power question.
Thanks for any comments!

BTW since I put the new transformer in (yesterday)I have started and stopped the Unit initializing the Pump Relay many many times and I cannot get it to blow the transformer, of course maybe when I leave it goes faulty....would be just my luck but so far....its performing great.

Thursday, March 29th 2018, 1:35pm

by Wet_Boots

If there is a relay controlling the pump operation, it might be too much of a current draw for a newer controller. You might have to spend more time and money sorting this out. There are pump relays with low current draw available. There are used or new-old-stock electromechanical controllers you could install, with power enough for old pump relays. There is even the relay-to-power-a-relay method, where you buy a second 24VAC transformer, and a small relay to send its power to a pump relay. This last is the most complicated, but it lets you employ any controller to run the system, with no need to deal with high-voltage pump power wiring.

Thursday, March 29th 2018, 10:02am

by canuck travellers

RE: Rainbird Model # SST-400in, Simple Set Timer Indoor 4 Zone



As I mentioned in the previous message my Rainbird was losing 7 to 8 seconds per day which might seem paltry in the great scheme of things but that's almost an hour a year.

So I went to Home Depot and bought another Rainbird but instead of the 4 valve I bought the 6 valve unit and just plugged it in, set the clock and timed it and as suspected this unit lost the same amount of time right to the second.
So the problem is I would guess is the clocking chip that must all have this fault built into them.
An hour a year loss in any clocking mechanism is way out of bounds.
I will keep the unit (returned the 6 valve one to HD) and put up with its inherent clocking fault.

The other issue is the method of connecting up the wire leads where you have to get a screwdriver, push in the plastic clips and shove the wires into a slot, if these are braided wires...good luck, I had to put solder on them so as to make them rigid enough to accept the wires. On the plus side the unit is as they say "Simple Set Timer" easy to set but a few faults but also a great buy at $50 US plus taxes.
Thought others might like to know how my Rainbird turned out.

Would I buy again....maybe but I would check out others first as my former TORO had an excellent clocking system.
RE my NEW Rainbird Model # SST-400in, Simple Set Timer Indoor 4 Zone
Well my Sprinkler was set to come on at 5AM this morning, I heard the pump start and immediately quit, I went out in the Golf Cart Shed and looked at the unit, no light on the 24 Volt Transformer. I pulled the transformer out and plugged it into an outlet....no light...no power going thru the transformer, took my old 24 Volt Transformer and plugged it in and touched the 24 Volt wires to the contacts in the Rainbird unit and it worked (the new on has push on connectors) So went down to Home Depot this morning and got a new unit and hooked it up and all is OK now.
Anyone out there have trouble with the 24 Volt Transformers in these Rainbird units?
I don't know if I can trust these units or not, we are absent from this winter home for seven months a year, if the irrigation system acts up like this morning we lose our lawn and will cost big time.
It would be helpful if someone on the forum has any experience with these units good or bad, specifically the 24 volt transformers, we have only had this unit for 1.5 months.

Thursday, February 15th 2018, 3:56pm

by canuck travellers

Rainbird Model # SST-400in, Simple Set Timer Indoor 4 Zone

As I mentioned in the previous message my Rainbird was losing 7 to 8 seconds per day which might seem paltry in the great scheme of things but that's almost an hour a year.

So I went to Home Depot and bought another Rainbird but instead of the 4 valve I bought the 6 valve unit and just plugged it in, set the clock and timed it and as suspected this unit lost the same amount of time right to the second.
So the problem is I would guess is the clocking chip that must all have this fault built into them.
An hour a year loss in any clocking mechanism is way out of bounds.
I will keep the unit (returned the 6 valve one to HD) and put up with its inherent clocking fault.

The other issue is the method of connecting up the wire leads where you have to get a screwdriver, push in the plastic clips and shove the wires into a slot, if these are braided wires...good luck, I had to put solder on them so as to make them rigid enough to accept the wires. On the plus side the unit is as they say "Simple Set Timer" easy to set but a few faults but also a great buy at $50 US plus taxes.
Thought others might like to know how my Rainbird turned out.

Would I buy again....maybe but I would check out others first as my former TORO had an excellent clocking system.

Sunday, February 11th 2018, 3:50pm

by canuck travellers

Rainbird Model # SST-400in, Simple Set Timer Indoor 4 Zone

Thanks, I will try that, I guess my concern is we live here in Florida for about five months and gone 7 months so that means a loss of a half hour or more in our absence, not earth shattering but I have never had a clock, watch or any clocking mechanism that badly out of time, the timing is simply a chip on a board and is usually extremely accurate like my old Toro it was more accurate than any watch I ever had.

I see a 1-800 number for Rainbird, I think I will try them tomorrow as I have had this working for several days and it is 7 to 8 seconds loss in 24 hours.

Will post the results.

Sunday, February 11th 2018, 12:58pm

by Wet_Boots

Let the controller run awhile. It might have some self-correcting ability for the time of day. I personally never worried about the precise time the controller displayed, since the lawn didn't benefit by accurate-to-the-second controllers. Lawns did just fine with motorized controllers you couldn't set to exact minutes, let alone seconds.

Saturday, February 10th 2018, 1:27pm

by canuck travellers

Rainbird Model # SST-400in, Simple Set Timer Indoor 4 Zone

Just put this in replacing my older TORO ECx, easy set up (don't like the wire connections but I guess they are OK) my question is the clocking mechanism, the clock loses 7 to 8 seconds a day, I know that might seem trivial but that's 46 minutes a year....I find that way too much slack in the clock. I don't see any way of making adjustments either.

Just wondering if anyone else has had that problem with these units, if so there will be no need for me to return if they all have a poor clocking system. My old TORO ECx never lost a second, was more accurate than my watch.

Any experience is greatly appreciated and might save me from returning this one and replacing it with another Rain Bird.
Thanks a lot!.....Ernie
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Wednesday, January 31st 2018, 7:09pm

by Wet_Boots

You don't. Not directly. Upload them to the internet by way of tinypic.com and bring back the IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards to paste into the message.

Tuesday, January 30th 2018, 9:46am

by canuck travellers

You maybe get to be the first. Take lots of photos, and give it a shot.
I must be slow, how do you put pictures on here?

Tuesday, January 30th 2018, 8:51am

by Wet_Boots

You maybe get to be the first. Take lots of photos, and give it a shot.