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Thursday, April 28th 2011, 10:28pm

by coghij1

Cool thanks for all your help

Wednesday, April 27th 2011, 3:42pm

by HooKooDooKu

To get consistant results, I found the MPRotators in my yard worked best with the spray bodies with the pressure regulators built in.

Wednesday, April 27th 2011, 9:47am

by coghij1

Sounds great. I have 50 psi and about 8 gpm. Should I step down the pressure to 30-35 psi or will 50 psi be just fine for the rotator heads you mentioned?


Scratch that. I just realized there are sprinkler bodies that do that!

Tuesday, April 26th 2011, 11:55pm

by coghij1

Sounds great. I have 50 psi and about 8 gpm. Should I step down the pressure to 30-35 psi or will 50 psi be just fine for the rotator heads you mentioned?

Tuesday, April 26th 2011, 9:56am

by HooKooDooKu

With irrigation, there is supposed to be overlap... basically every spot in the yard should be getting water from two head. It's known as head to head coverage and it's what you want regardless if you want to use sprays, rotors, or the MPRotators.

My personal thoughts are that you get the MP2000 Rotators. Under ideal conditions, they throw water 20', but realistically 16' to 18'. They are supposed to be adjustable down to 13'. I personally would run a set of the MP2000 Rotators in each corner and along the sides spaced 15' apart. That will give you plenty of overlap, and you could do the whole area on a single circuit. From what I calculate based on these spec sheets (http://www.hunterindustries.com/products/mprotator/) the zone would require 3.5 to 4.0 gpm of flow and only needs 30psi at the heads.

Tuesday, April 26th 2011, 1:33am

by coghij1

Thanks. So if run from the main like as what is recommended, should I switch to spray heads instead of rotating heads? The grass will be a rectangle 45'x16' so would I be able to find spray heads that reach 16' or would I have to put down another line in the middle and run the sprayers in 8' patterns? It would be tricky because the 45' length can't be easily divided into 8' sections so there would be a lot of overlap.

Monday, April 25th 2011, 11:00am

by HooKooDooKu

Trying to tap of a 1/2" copper is VERY limiting.

For starter, the plumbing rule of staying under the 5fpm speed limit means that you will ALWAYS be limited to a maximum of about 4gpm per zone.

The next issue is that some people find the noise of running water when the irrigation system is running to be objectionable (hence the reason to tie in before the plumbing enters the house).

The other possible issue is pressure loss. As water flows through a pipe, it loses pressure as the result of "friction" with the pipe. The narrower the pipe, the faster the water flows and the higher the friction losses. As an example, 100ft of 1/2" copper running at 3gpm will lose about 10psi just from flowing through the pipe. But if you simply upgrade to a 3/4" copper pipe, the pressure losses are cut in 4th (i.e. 2psi for the same 100ft run). So when it comes to pressure losses, a small change in pipe size can make a huge difference.

If your only worry is dealing with going under a sidewalk... then don't be. Go under the sidewalk. It's not that difficult. If you have very loose soil, there is the old garden hose trick of just drilling a hole with water. If you have a more clay like soil, all you need is a piece of rebar and black pipe and a sledge hammer, simply pound a hole under the sidewalk (the rebar makes a great pilot hole, then get a piece of 3/4" black pipe with a 3/4" to 1/2" reducer on the front and top the reducer off with a nipple. The resulting hole should accomidate 1" PVC).

Now if you were having to go under a driveway (and I've done that too), I would say that's a whole different thing to consider. But getting a piece of pipe under a standard sidewalk is well within the capability of a DIY.

Even in my worst case (5' wide sidewalk with large rocks under it needed a 3" hole), I got the job done with no problem renting a pressure washer (make drilling through rock-filled clay child's play).

Monday, April 25th 2011, 9:24am

by Wet_Boots

No problem - you can use antisyphon valves for your zones. A pro wouldn't guess at the amount of water, though. He would employ a flow-and-pressure tester to know exactly what the supply was.

Monday, April 25th 2011, 6:32am

by coghij1

FYI,

The area I want to sprinkler and sod is 45'x16'.

Monday, April 25th 2011, 6:21am

by coghij1

To run from 1/2" copper or not

Ok, for starters I have a small backyard and I am planning on putting in about 720 sq ft of sod and a sprinker system to cover that same area. I have a hose bib conveniently located in my backyard running off the half inch copper lines from within my house. On the other hand I can tap into the main on the opposite side of the house but I would have to run a line under the sidewalk and I would rather not deal with that. I just don't see a problem with using the half in copper from the house if I divided my yard into two zones. Each zone would run 2 180 rotary heads and 2 90 rotary heads combined for just over 3gpm per zone. I have not tested the flow of the faucet where I want to tap but I did measure 52 psi static there.



Is it foolish of me to run sprinklers off this half inch line? Any input would be greatly appreciated!